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As a Christian, believing the Bible is easy. Living it isn't.
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Believing the Bible is only easy when you are a foolish individual with a weak mind who has allowed a cult to brainwash you. Considering the fact that there is no evidence to backup the outrageous stories of the Bible, especially the idea that there is a god, believing the Bible should not only be difficult, it should be considered impossible. And no, living by what the Bible says isn't easy either. That's why the 4th Watch doesn't follow most of what the Bible says. Despite how much they hate gays and the fact that the Bible commands its followers to kill them, the 4th Watch ignores this command, probably because they are unwilling to break the law and lose their lives. Just as well, the leader wouldn't make as much money anyways. But in addition to all that, the 4th Watchers allow women to teach, as well as many other things that go against the Bible. The only thing that makes living the Bible easier is brainwashing, which all 4th Watchers are subjected to.
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Father, You sent Your Son to die so that I may be saved. Who am I to be loved this way? TYL for my salvation!
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Only brainwashed individuals would believe and find it acceptable that someone could "save" you from Hell by punishing someone else. A normal person sees that as immoral and senseless. A brainwashed person has no problem with the idea of torturing and killing someone else in order to put your responsibilities for the wrong things you've done in life being perfectly acceptable, and shows more about how brainwashed cult members do not think straight and are unwilling to take responsibility for their own actions.
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If you do not get what you want, then it isn't God's plan. But God will provide you what you need. (Jeremiah 29:11 "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.")
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If you do not get what you want and God's just going to provide what you need anyway, then what is the point of praying? This is one of those examples where Christian ideology just doesn't make sense. And further more, the statement's a lie. There is no plan and there is no God. Just ask all the starving children and the millions of persons dying of AIDS in Africa if God is giving them what they need. My thought is no.
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Faith in God is not blind. It is based on His character and His promises.
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Since his character is fictional and his promises are lies, faith in God is indeed blind. Further more, if faith was actually based on something that could verify belief, then it wouldn't be faith now would it.
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Do not rely on what you can do. Trust on what God can do. ---- Proverbs 3:5 "Trust in the Lord with all your heartand lean not on your own understanding;"
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Another irresponsible thing to say to somebody. Cult members are trained to not only hate themselves, but to not put any trust into themselves or anyone else. Instead, they are taught to put one-hundred percent of all their trust and love into someone that they cannot see, touch, interact with, or experience in any way. In other words, they trust someone who they can't even verify actually exists at all. The truth is, they trust someone who doesn't exist. And that is not only unwise, but dangerous.
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Lord, everything in this world is a lesser thing compared to You. I pray You will sustain me through this day of fasting. All for the glory of Your Name!
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Since God doesn't exist, everything in this world is already more than God So right away, you know that such a statement is not true. Further more, the idea that we are a "lesser thing" to someone who is supposed to be perfect isn't anything to hate yourself over. This really shows what low self-esteem the 4th Watchers have.
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Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass freely through cyberspace but the public discussion about Jesus is suppressed in the school and work place. Funny isn't it? I choose not to be silent of my faith nor be muted by the profanity of this world. There is a living God who is above all these things. You have a choice to serve Him or not. So make one.
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We have the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene passing freely through cyberspace because we are a free people. We deserve to say what we want and to do what we want. However, there are times when it is not appropriate. That's why we don't allow such things in school and the work place. Since God and the Bible is completely made up of lewdness, crudeness, vulgarity, and obscenity, it makes sense that these things are suppressed in school and the work place. Further more, there are a million other religions out there that do not believe in the Christian god. You might really love and believe in your god, but we cannot allow in such places the promotion of one god while excluding all other gods. You wouldn't like it if your school practiced prayers to Allah or if your work place allowed the proselytizing of Pagans. If you want Jesus in your spaces, you'd have to allow othe r gods to be fair. If you don't want to be fair, then you're only helping your cultic image get worse.
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Such irony on this: Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.
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This isn't ironic, nor is it funny. We believe what the newspapers say because they report information that is important to our society, and it is fact checked and verified for accuracy. We question what the Bible says for the same reason you would question a book about King Arthur and Merlin the Wizard if it was being presented to you as factual. The Bible is nothing more than a book of fairytales that are not to be believed. Science has never been able to verify the outrageous supernatural stories of the Bible. With that and the fact that following the Bible involves negatively affecting the lives of billions of persons, such as by giving your life to God and treating homosexuals and women like crap, it would be completely stupid and irresponsible not to question it.
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Just a thought: It's funny how simple it is for people to trash God and wonder why the world is in the condition it is today.
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Actually, I think it's funny how simple it is for Christians, particularly cult members like the 4th Watch, to impose hatred, violence, inequality, and slavery on the world, and then wonder why the world is in the condition it is today.
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The designs of the universe and the earth cannot exist on its own without a DESIGNER which is the maker of heaven and earth -- God.
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Do you have any proof of this? Do you have any evidence ? You are assuming with your primitive way of thinking that because the universe and earth seem designed to you, that they were designed, when in fact science has already shown that no designer was necessary. Since we have no evidence of a designer and we have evidence that we don't need one, before you can make the claim that everything was designed and that we need a designer, you're going to have to provide evidence for that claim, which you and your kind constantly fail to do. And then, if one day you do provide that evidence, then you have another challenge-to provide evidence that the designer of this design is God, your Christian god. Good luck with that.
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[Regarding political views] who ever put their trust in God i'll vote for them
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This right here represents the dangerous influence a cult can have on a person, and foretells the dangerous consequences that cults can have on the world. There are serious problems in our nations, and we need persons in office who can effectively deal with these problems. The belief in God is not an adequate qualification for being a politician. If you vote for someone simply because they believe in God, then you are nothing but a fool who is irresponsibly helping to add to these problems, especially since it is often the religious politicians that create these problems in the first place. We can't have leaders putting into place policies that reflect Christian immorality, nor can we trust someone to lead based on only one characteristic, especially if it's the belief in a god, an evil god no less. With thoughts like this, is it any wonder that we have the problems in the world that we do? If we have a problem with AIDS in our country, we need politicians who understand this problem and who work to help find a cure, not politicians who simply believe in God and feel that prayer is the cure to this disease.
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Had lively "interaction" with a Muslim guy today! Couldn't explain why there are mosques in US but we don't have churches in MIddle East!
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I can explain it. First of all, there are some Christian churches in the Middle East, just not in certain countries. This is because those countries are founded upon religion, in particular, Islam, which is based off an immoral book called the Qur'an, which makes them Islamic nations that practice Islamic government, and in that government, are laws which prohibit the practicing of any other religions, the penalty for doing so being death. Obviously, there will not be many Christian churches in such countries, nor of any other religion besides Islam. Here in the U.S., we allow the practice of any religion because unlike those Middle Eastern countries, the U.S. is not founded upon any religion. This country is a secular nation that practices a government that embraces concepts such as equality and freedom, which allows anyone to practice any religion that they want to, including Islam and Christianity. That is why you see both Christian churches and Muslim mosques here, as well as other places of worship of other religions. If however, like the Middle East that bases their countries off of Islam and the Qur'an, the U.S. based its country on the equally immoral Christianity and Holy Bible, which includes laws that also prohibit other religions from being practiced, also with the price being death if not followed, then there would be no mosques. Fortunately, the U.S. is not a Christian nation and persons are not persecuted for the religions that they follow, unless of course their actions are harmful towards others. So pastor, now you know!
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PRAISE THE LORD!!! I wish Sunday could last forever - oh, wait, it will
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This is what those in the 4th Watch cult do. They waste their whole day on Sunday worshipping their evil and imaginary god while giving money to their cult leader.
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I've been observing these weekend specials on UFC fighters, the boxing match with Manny Pacquiao, and it makes me really think of the ministers in the PMCC (4th Watch). How they endure, how they fight. No retreat, no surrender: they won't back down for anyone.
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You mean how the ministers in your cult won't retreat from scamming persons?
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two days ago iwas praying while iwas doing caroling, iasked God that someone will give two hundred dallars in our caroling. guest wht?? God heard my prayer someone did give to us 2hundred dallars this afternun for our caroling... im so greatful to God because he heard my prayer......THANK YOU LORD!!!
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A classic example of someone jumping to the conclusion that God is answering prayers. First of all, there is no evidence to suggest that God is even real, so that right there lowers significantly the chance of any prayer answering going on. But forget that for a second. Deeply superstitious persons like the 4th Watchers believe that God is always answering their prayers. They set this belief up so that they can't be incorrect. No matter what outcome a prayer might have, a 4th Watcher can always tell you that the prayer was answered. Sometimes, you get what you want. Sometimes you don't get what you want for a long time, but eventually do. God just had you wait for a better time to receive it. Sometimes, you don't get what you want at all, but that's just because God has a better idea for you. The truth is, you can get the same kind of results from praying to a bottle of milk or an almighty toilet.
But despite that, 4th Watchers and most other cult members only focus on the times they get what they want, and don't even consider the times when they don't. The truth is, answered prayers are nothing more than coincidences of getting what you want after praying for it. To show you what I'm saying, I'll tell a brief story here.
A few years ago, I was out of a job for a few months then, and I had a credit card bill about to be past due, with rent coming up. I was very scared and didn't know how to handle my situation because I had no money. One night, I said to myself that I was in badly need of some money. I told myself that if I only had three-hundred dollars, that that would be all I needed to get me through the month without having to worry and if I only had that much, I was positive I could find a job by then. The very next day, I received in the mail a check from my father for three-hundred dollars! I was in complete shock. Of course, I was happy as can be. I thanked my father and told him the story.
First of all, I didn't pray to God. Praying to God is not required to receive positive moments like this in your life. Naturally, I first thought that maybe I somehow shaped the universe to give me what I wanted, or somehow used an unknown psychic power, or maybe some deity out there was listening to me and made my wish come true. But then I thought about it more, and all the times when I had wished for something and had never gotten it. I realized that it was just a coincidence, that is all, and that sometimes things like that just happen in life.
Had I prayed to God about it before hand, I no doubt would have given serious consideration that it was indeed God's doing. Unfortunately, this 4th Watcher did just that. Of course, her prayer would have been answered anyway, according to their philosophy, but the fact that she received such a positive outcome after praying, was all the "proof" that she needed to convince her that God was answering her. But the truth is, there is no God. Coincidences happen, as I have just shown here. And to this day, there is no evidence to suggest that prayers do any more good than not praying. When we put so much superstition into our lives, we set them up for a life of doom.
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Based on lengthy experience and you have facts to back you up, if every fiber of what you believe and know is doubted or judged, don't give up fighting for it, EVER. (my lesson for today).
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I agree, so the question must be asked as to why you believe in God and your apostle as his "true sent one"? You don't have any facts to back you up, and I doubt you have any experiences to base them on, considering you've been being programmed by the cult for several years.
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As we were putting up the tree, singing along to Christmas songs I bumped into the line: "...he sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake..." Sounds like Santa's stalking you. Creepy. LOL #justsaying. Anyways, it's caroling Day 1. On to achieving victory for the Lord!
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Sounds like some other fictional character I know. Just saying.
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All set for Vegas. First time to visit the city and first time to EVER leave Southbay, so, having mixed emotions. :(
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You can see here how a cult works to influence its victims. This poor girl has never left her cultic home, where she had been psychologically programmed for years. Cult members and victims are often raised in the cult and some have become too dependent on the cult to be comfortable enough to leave. This is exactly the kind of hold the cult wants on its members. When you are too dependent on the cult for your life and never leave, you might be trapped there forever, and if not physically, mentally.
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holding my breath for the time being. After Sunday, I can return to normalcy...well, at least a little bit of it. Lol. TYL for everything!
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Cult members by definition are not normal, and as long as you stay a cult member, especially one who believes that by paying your leader will help ensure you go to Heaven, you will never be normal. If you want to ever be considered normal again hon, get out of the cult.
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May God continue to guide and protect the Bible Students who are preaching in Newman busliner everyday. May God use this tragic event for the good of the Church. Making the Church and Newman bus liner become well known as the news goes international. In everything there is a reason. I'm sure God has a reason. Let's continue to devote ourselves in prayers.
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It isn't surprising that the 4th Watch cult would be sick enough to turn a tragic event into an opportunity to recruit new members. It's always about getting more recruits to get more money to make their leader even richer.
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TRULY GOD'S WORK IS SO TRANSPARENT IN HIS CHURCH...I MEAN THE REAL, THE TRUE, THE EXACT PROPERTY CHURCH OF CHRIST IN THIS END TIME MISSION NO OTHER THAN PMCC 4TH WATCH TO GOD BE THE GLORY! AMEN!!!
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Do we need to say more ? What is so transparent about this church is that it is a cult that has so obviously programmed its members like this poor woman who has consequently lost her grip on reality. We feel sorry for her and others like her. We can only hope that our project helps to avoid more incidents like this.
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Peace is not the absence of affliction, but the presence of God.
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Of all the things said by programmed 4th Watch cult members, this is definitely among the most stupid. First of all, peace is the absence of affliction. But the idea that peace is the presence of God is not only incorrect, it is disgustingly wrong! Anyone who truly knows the Bible knows that this statement is a showing of pure stupidity. Every opportunity he sees, God creates affliction! He has flooded the entire Earth for crying out loud, killing trillions. He has killed more persons than anyone in the history of the world. He calls upon his people to kill others and to start wars, promoting violence to the extreme. He forces women to marry their rapists and for parents to kill their children when they are disobedient. Peace is the presence of God? No, violence is the presence of God.
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God's legion of angels are sure going to be prepared protecting His people especiall the Apostle.
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They sure treat their apostle like their god. Anyways, it's not likely God's legion of angels are protecting him, as now the whole world can know the truth about this wicked man.
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Just came from Carson park with the girls and witnessing as well to those two parents there - it is sort of being a "fool" for Christ on this April Fool's Day:)
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We couldn't have said it better ourselves. For once, we agree.
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You should have no other love but Christ, you should have no other world
but ministry, you should have no other work, but your jobspec
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How much more evidence do you need to understand that the 4th Watch practices psychological programming? This is a perfect example of this, and clearly helps to show that the PMCC 4th Watch is a cult.
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Like Hebrews 11:17-19, we all have an Isaac in our lives and like Abraham,
by faith, we should offer it as a sacrifice! Glory to God!
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Absolutely disgusting. We've heard some despicable crap coming out of the mouths of 4th Watch cult members, but this is perhaps the worst. First of all, God was an evil son of a bitch for even telling Abraham to sacrifice Isaac in the first place, and Abraham was a jerk for going along with it, and then him and God both portrayed pure evil when Abraham sacrificed somoene else instead and God accepted it. But in any case, to suggest that we all have something to sacrifice, and to suggest that we should all sacrifice something on the value as one of our own children...well that's just pure stupidity and evil. This is something that someone could only say if they were in a cult.
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I used to think the purpose of life was to become the best person I can be through worldly achievements such as career success, influence over others, being a good person, etc. God taught me that being my best can only be achieved by following Jesus Christ.
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More evidence of an obviously programmed individual. This is what the cult turns persons into. Now you know why we have pictures of zombies representing the 4th Watch cult members. They are trained to throw away morals and any self-love. I've got news for you programmed cult member...being your best has nothing to do with a dead person that lived two thousand years ago. He's dead. Don't throw away your morality and learn to hate yourself because of someone who's dead. Persons like this need to resist superstition, and be put on an alternative path to success. But they can't while their minds shrink due to the psychological attacks they endure. Cults...they really do eat brains.
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Because of sin, people die...because of sin, people get sick...because of sin, we have all this calamity and devastation, like the one we recently saw from Japan. All of this is brought about because of man's sin.
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Another absolutely innaprpriate and unnacceptable thing to say by a disgusting cult leader. This is what superstition does to you. It causes you to lose your sense of reality, and say stupid things. Yes ladies and gentlemen...sin is what causes bad things to happen. It's because of sin that you get sick. And of course, it was sin that caused that horrible earthquake in Japa, Forget about tectonic plates, these Japaneses persons were just too sinful. Jonathon Ferriol is the one who said this. ...What an asshole.
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Praise God! Hosanna Broadcasting Network (Channel 20 on Direct TV & Dish Network) replayed the Surer Word program that was already shown earlier this morning!! More exposure! More audience!
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