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hindi totoo yan actually im I.N.C. FROM LOCALE OF LAGUNA pero friend ko ay 4th watch si pretty gasmen maganda nga ang itinuturo nila don` kaya kahit INC pa man ako proud pa rin ako sa itinuturo sa kanila because lahat nasa bible wla akong ma sey makipag debate ka sa kanila no!!!! ewan ko lang sa inyong wafak na fez!!!kaya malapit na nga akong maligtas dahil sa pangangaral nya sa akin na feel ko talaga ang presence in my heart grabe!! kaya walang babatikos sa church ng mga christian siguro kay SATANAS KAYO !kayong gumawa ng anti-pmcc 4th watch baka kayo`y anti christ!!! ILLUMINATI KAYONG BLOCKER OF PMCC 4TH WATCH AT IBPA....

DAPAT SA INYO A.P.M.C.C.4TH WATCH MAPAIMPIERNO EDIT PA KAYO NG EDIT NAHURT NYO YUNG MGA 4TH WATCH WAG NYO SA AMIN GAWIN YAN KUNDI LAGOT KA KAY KA.ERNIE AT KAY KA.MANALO LALO NA SA DIOS!!!

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That's not true. Actually I'm an INC from a locale in Laguna but I have a friend, Pretty Gasmen, a member of 4th Watch. Their teachings are good, so even though I'm an INC, I'm still proud for them because everything is from the bible. I can't say anything more. Debate with them!!!! I'm sure that you'll lose right in front of your face. I know that my salvation is near because of her guidance and teachings. I really feel the presence in my heart. So no one should should be refuting the Church of Christians. Maybe you're in Satan's club. The ones who founded anti-pmcc 4th Watch must be the anti-Christs. Illuminati blockers of pmcc-4th watch, etc...

You guys from A.P.M.C.C 4th WAtch should burn in hell. You're always editing and you hurt those from the 4th Watch. Don't do that to us because you'll hear from Ka Ernie and Ka Manalo especially from God.

-Annonymous
Oct 24, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Thank you for emailing us, and we will address your comments.

Everything that we have presented about the 4th Watch in our project has been verified as much as possible to confirm its truth. Your friend is a member of a cult. We know because we used to part of the 4th Watch as well, and we know what we're talking about. You might think that their teachings are good, but you are basing that on the concept that their teachings are Biblical. What is it about that that makes their teachings good? Remember that there is a lot of false facts and immoral teachings in the Bible, so calling their church good because they're based on the Bible is perhaps not wise. And we do debate with them from time to time. We have a formal debate on our website that you can see. Our opponent failed miserably to win his arguments. Debating 4th Watchers have never been a problem for us. The only problem we have is getting 4th Watchers to actually debate, as they seem very afraid and unprepared to defend their faith. There is no such thing as salvation, and we will continue to refute the 4th Watch for as long as we need to. As Satan is not real, it would also be just as unwise to belong to any club that belongs to him. However; calling some of us an anti-christ isn't that far off. We'll take that as a compliment though. And by the way; the Illuminati doesn't exist.

Now; when we hear from Christians that we should burn in Hell; it only backs up our claims that you people are hateful and immoral. The idea of wanting anyone to burn in Hell is very revealing of how much hatred is held in a person's heart. If this is the kind of feelings that you are taught to have, and if this is the kind of thing that you're proud of the 4th Watch of, then it's only more evidence of Christianity being a religion of hatred; particularly the 4th Watch cult, and the cult that you belong to as well. It is not our intention to hurt anyone from either of these cults. We're simply exposing their hatred, which you have helped us to do (thank you). And we could care less what God thinks about that.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
November 30, 2011
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Hi there,,just read a while ago your comment abt. 4th watch,,,what abt. your church,,,are you a true church,,,why only 4thwatch is a cult,,,how abt...the other churches like catholic,,,,jehovah witness,,,

atheist scammer!!!

thanks to all your comment!!!!based on what your written,,,its proves that you are the cult,,,,coz you don!t believe in the bible and Jesus Christ.I highly recommend you to read the bible,,,the truth will set you free!!!no religious leader can save you!!!only your personal relationship with GOD can save you....

-Errand, 4th Watcher
Oct 19, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Hello, and welcome to the anti-pmcc 4th Watch project. Regarding your comments and questions, some of us have belonged to other churches in the past, but most of us now are atheists and agnostics, so we don't belong to any church. As for other churches, we don't agree with many of their teachings either, but this project focuses on the 4th Watch, and the project was created due to personal experiences with the church. As for us being a cult, that's pretty funny, but cults are not organizations that are not based on the Bible; they are potentially dnagerous groups that are religiously based. Turst us; going by the Bible isn't exactly a good thing, as it's very inaccurate and immoral. And we know this because we >span class="italic">did read the Bible. So obviously; we are not a cult; your little 4th Watch church is. However; we do agree that the truth will set you free, and the truth is that the Bible is nonsensical garbage, and the PMCC 4th Watch is a cult that needs to be abandoned. Your Apostle claims to be the only way to Jesus, so in a sense; your Apostle claims the opposite of what you're stating. In any case; we don't want any personal relationship with any evil and imaginary god; thank you.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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thanks for this site. . because of this I will become stronger. this site help me too become faithful in pmcc 4thwatch . . and I know that this site won't prevent the grow and development of the church . the owner's of this site was SATAN'S ARMY . .

YOU DON'T FOOL US . .
only GOD can punish you . so think my friend. .

This site was so RIDICULOUS. !!!

-Jonathan Perico, 4th Watcher
Oct 4, 2011
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Freethinker spacer First off; you're welcome for the site, and thank you for stopping by. You reveal a lot about yourself without even knowing it. It's easy to say that the site wil make you stronger and more faithful in your cult, but because of the fact that you fail to explain how that would be so, it instead shows that you are desperate to say whatever you can about it, as you really have no defense. However; we agree that the project won't prevent the growth and development of the church. It will however help to slow down and degrade the progress of its growth and development. Even if we only save one person from joining your cult, that's one person that we saved, and all of our work would have been worth it. As for the owner being in Satan's army; Satan turned him down actually for not believing in him. ;) In any case; I don't have to fool you; you guys do a great job of fooling yourselves already. God isn't real, so he obviously can't punish us. Think my friend. And while you think our site is ridiculous; it's certainly better than a dangerous cult like the PMCC 4th Watch!

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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spacer Hello there free thinker.. or the "watchers of the 4th watch". I understand that you have a lot of hate in your heart because of the 4th watch but the 4th watch is'nt doing anything to you so why are you doing this? I know that you say you are doing this to inform the public but this is wrong. We have the right to choose what are our religious views and you telling lies of the church is very wrong, i hope you understand how big your sin is. We are truly in the end time because we can see the persecution that we are receiving. But I just want you to know that we are the Pentecostal Missionary Church of Christ (4th) Watch and we will remain standing our ground. Like it says here in Romans 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? And yes you might reason out that God is not with us But we know as witnesses of God in our midst That He IS with us. It also says in the Bible in Matthew 10:22 You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. So you hate us for believing there IS God but you are just like a "thorn in our flesh" Just like Paul the Apostle that had gotten a disease but to him it was only a thorn in his flesh but he kept declaring the words of God. But you are not a thorn you are actually just a very small splinter in our flesh. Nothing will stop us for our ministry to God nothing. You can lie and lie all you want but we know we have the truth, you may be wise with words of hate and lies but you are not wise in the words of God. And we know this is the work of Satan So we rebuke you Hallelujah In Jesus Name! We Rebuke The Evil Spirits That is Working Here! Psalms 9:9 The LORD is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble. I hope you change your heart and mind because we Are A TRUE church And NOT a cult We ARE the CHURCH of CHRIST.

-4th Watcher
Sep 24, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Hello, and welcome to our website.

We do have a lot of resentment, though we're not sure that we would call it hate regarding the 4th Watch. You have to understand, that we were a part of the cult that you speak of, and were among many of its victims. Though the cult is no longer hurting us now; we know that it traps new victims every day, and we must do all that we can to help stop that from happening. That's why we have our project. You are right that you have the right to choose your religious views, but you don't have the right to put children in danger, and we also have the right to inform the public about the dirty truths behind the cult, such as its delusional leader that scams his members out of their money by pretending to be an apostle appointed by God himself. Your accusation of us telling lies is a serious one, and we will tell you right now that we do not lie. Further more; all of the information in our project has been verified. When we can't verify certain information, we make this known. Additionally; 4th Watchers always have the opportunity to help us to correct any errors that we might have. If there is something that you want us to fix, then kindly let us know in an email. We don't believe in sin, so the size of it does not matter to us.

Your assertion that we are in the "end times" is absurd, and is evidence of cultic thinking; a product of your cult's paranoia teachings. You are receiving persecution because you are a cult headed by a scam-artist. Your affirmation of standing your ground means very little, as most of you are too afraid even to talk to us, and when you do, you can barely ever back up anything you say or properly defend your faith at all. You only believe that God is real as part of all of the testimonies that the cult gathers to pound into your head. Testimonies are one of many techniques that the cult uses to program your mind into believing the junk that it teaches. We talk about this in our project. The cult pushes you to tell testimonies about your experiences, putting the idea into your head that God has been a part of them, and combined with everyone's testimonies, it is constant reinforcement for your brain to beleive in garbage.

We don't hate you, but we hate your cultic teachings because they are incorrect, immoral, and dangerous. With a reputation like that; it is easy to see why persons would hate you though, so your little Bible verse being true should be of no surprise. And Jews and Christians have been the thorns in the flesh of persons for thousands of years, so whatever you're feeling; take it as a what goes around comes around type deal. Since we are only a splinter and not a thorn, then you should have nothing to worry about. However; we are but one of many splinters that are invading the Christian religion. Your particular cult is a baby compared to other denominations, and typical cults do not have long life spans. You won't be around forever; especially once your leaders' are caught in their scams.

Anyways; God is not wise, so we could care less about any "wisdom" he might have. It's very easy to say that our work is that of Satan, but that's not going to make any difference is it. Rebuking us only makes us laugh. And evil spirits? Lol. You think we have evil spirits working at our computers; writing articles for our website? Well we have news for you; we tried to hire evil spirits for those jobs, but they were too greedy, and we could not afford their desired salary. They certainly could type fast though.

Your assertion that you are a true church and that you are the church of Christ means very little, as every church believes that they are the only true church. The difference is that your church believes that anybody else from other churches that aren't as true as yours will go to Hell for being in the wrong church; a very cultic way of thinking. You belong to a cult; the 4th Watch cult!

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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hello there!! i would like to tell you that you are a big LIAR!! a self-loving person who don't accept teachings from other!! you just believe in yourself and don't let other help you in making your life good as others have., you never look in the other side of everything., you just believe in what you really believe., and who the hell do you think you are?? To tell that the bible is not true?? Do you still have your soul with you or you already give it to your God who is ruling your life right now, nothing but SATAN., You are not a human, you are one of Satan's little demon who tell and post things about our church. you don't have the right to judge the teachings., because I believe that GOD is giving every member of the church the knowledge to learn and to teach the truth and nothing but the TRUTH!!! you know what, why don't look back on the past days of being a member of this Church and LET THE TRUTH SET YOU FREE!!! good luck loser., may your soul rest in peace., stop telling lies., sorry but I think your soul is now in the lake of fire.,

-4th Watcher
Sep 23, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Well hello there!

Wow. We're big liars? We haven't heard that before. Lol. We do love ourselves, and that is very imporant; different from your cult which teaches its members like you to hate everybody; including yourselves. But we love more than just ourselves. We love others too. This is something that your cult might want to look into. Love is a wonderful thing! :) It is also to believe in yourself, so I'm glad that you acknowledge that we do this as well. As for accepting teachings from others and letting others help us; of course we do. In fact; if you believe that those are good things to do, then let us help you understand the truth behind your church; that it's a cult with no value; void of love and truth.

Who the hell do we think we are? Oh well that's easy. We are the Watchers of the 4th Watch; a ministry dedicated to exposing the sad realities behind the PMCC 4th Watch cult. Of course the Bible is not true. It has been destroyed by science, and thus there is no reason to believe it. Since a soul does not exist, we don't have any to give to anybody. If Satan wants our souls; perhaps he can imagine that they're real in the same way that you imagine that there is a god.

4th Watchers are no longer human; but robots programmed by their cult, and commanded by their cult leaders. When they tell you to give them money; you reach in your pocket while asking "how much?". How does it feel to be a robot? Oh that's right; robots don't have feelings. We on the other hand have every right to judge your church, and our ruling is that you are a cult. It doesn't matter what you believe, science has revealed the truth, and your cult only teaches you lies. It's funny that you would want us to look back at our past days of being a member of your cult, because it only attempts to trap you. However; the truth does indeed set persons free; that is why we are no longer members. We escaped. ;) And don't worry. Since the lake of fire doesn't exist; we won't be going there. Thanks.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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-4th Watcher
Sep 5, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Most of us don't believe in God or Satan, so your message here is mostly irrelevant. As for those of us who do believe in them, we are simply exposing the unfortunate truths behind your cult. But if our website really is the child of Satan, we wonder who the mother is.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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why do you persecute us so much. what makes you want to bring us down? have you ever heard the any preaching before?

-Jake, 4th Watcher
Sep 1, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Hi to you too Jake. The reasons for our project are several, but it is basically to educate the public about the false, immoral, and dangerous aspects of your church. Our website lists many aspects of your cult that reflects these things, and thus you should be able to see why we "persecute" you. Let's start with the fact that your church persecutes others. However; that's a characteristic of many Christian churches. Let's talk about how your cult leader scams his members with promises of wealth and health if you give him money. And yes of course; most of us were members of your cult, so we have indeed hear their preaching on many occasions. This is part of the reasons how we know what we are talking about.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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spacer Subject: alin ang totoo? / Which is true?

-Tagalog-

kung mamatay tayo? saan ang punta natin? either hell or heaven?. halimbawang 4th watch ako?, at kung aalis ako sa 4th watch, san ako pupunta? sa inyo?, para sa akin, hindi basehan ang religion o ang sinasabi nyong kulto, kung may pananalig ka kay god, magtiwala ka sa panginoon, walang imposible sa panginoon, kung wala kang pananalig malamang mag-ba-backslide ka.. at bakit kelangan pang gumawa ng ganitong article or site, sa mga may utak at sa may malawak na pang-unawa maaring isipin nilang paninira ang ginagawa ninyo,nasa tao naman kung magpapaloko sya o hindi.

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If we die, where do we go? Either Hell or Heaven? Say I'm a member of 4th watch, and if I leave 4th watch, where do I go? With you guys? For me, religion or your cult is not the basis, but if you have faith in god, and you trust god, there's nothing impossible. So if you don't have faith, you'll backslide. And why would you create this article or site? To those who have brains and understanding, they would think you're just trying to cause trouble, and it's up to them if they'll let themselves be fooled by you or not.

-Christine
Aug 15, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Hello Christine. We thank you for contacting us, and welcome to our website.

We don't know what will happen to us after we die. Mayeb we'll have some afterlife; maybe nothing will happen at all. The concept of Heaven and Hell though is pretty unlikely. We agree that if you believe in God, and if God is real, then religion probably doesn't matter, and that is one of the reasons why we made this website and wrote these articles, because they teach that you cannot go to Heaven without being in their cult.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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ARE YOU ACTUALLY A BUNCH OF FAGGOTS? BE AFRAID. THIS WEBSITE COMES ACROSS AS HATEFUL ETC EVERYTHING YOU PERSECUTE THE 4TH WATCHERS FOR.YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF HUMAN HISTORY IS APPALLING.

-John Stillwell
Aug 11, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Hello Christian. We see that you live up to your religion's reputation very well. We are the Watchers of the 4th Watch, an organization made up of mostly atheists and agnostics who are exposing the truth behind a Christian doomsday cult known as the 4th Watch. We also acknowledge that the Christian religion as a whole is hateful, immoral, and dangerous. If anyone needs to be afraid, it is you, as your religion is going to die. How can we possibly take you seriously about our project coming across as hateful when you just implied that we are faggots? If we had any homosexuals in our group; they wouldn't be faggots; they would be human beings who are worth much more in life than you'll ever be. The 4th Watchers are brainwashed robotic haters. Are you sure that you're not one of them? What is appalling about our knowlege of human history. You failed to explain yourself, just like your kind continuously fails to explain how God can be real when science has shown that he is not.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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spacer do you think that the congregation you attended is not a cult? if there are some religious group that can prove that your congregation is also a cult not the pmcc

-Melvin
Aug 1, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Thak you for contacting us Melvin. Some of us who still attend church do not attend cults. However; if there are any churches that would like to show how those churches are cults; they are more than welcome to do so. Further more; if anyone would like to show us how the 4th Watch is not a cult; they're welcome to do that too. Thanks.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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No man on earth convinced me to attend the PMCC(4th Watch); and I would not have attended, nor would I have stayed because of what the Protestant church has taught me most of my life of cults and apostles. Logically, I may agree with your reasoning as they were my way of thinking also.

But,... during my hopeless and depressing days of my life before God, and before anyone has even mentioned anything about the church, The Lord himself told me to attend the Pentecostal Missionary Church of Christ (4th Watch) on July 26 of 2009. I will never forget that beautiful day; and I will never forget the Loving, Soft and Warm Voice of the Lord Jesus Christ, Yes Jesus is Alive, and He can see and feel everything you can see and feel, everything -- even if you can not feel him, because He is The Living God indeed. He perfectly understands your thoughts, and your experiences. Surely, NOTHING is greater than the Love of Christ, nothing!

Always remember, all things which are good comes from God through Jesus Christ -- I did not learn this, but rather I experienced this personally with Jesus Christ. Be patient, and be humble, and God may lift you up as He did lift me up; and He may give you greater joy which will last forever despite any hardship you are facing. And without Jesus Christ, it is impossible to see anything good from God, and to see God.

Indeed satan manipulates our mind to keep us away from ever knowing the truth. And when we finally find that truth which so many people can not see, satan indeed attacks full force in the smartest ways imaginable to take our heart and our mind away from the truth once again. Be soft in your heart and in your mind; and do not be blinded by your own pride. God can easily forgive you when you soften your heart.

Forgiveness is needed now more than ever before. Isn't it a wonderful feeling of joy to know you are forgiven by people you have offended so much? How much more joy will you have when you know you are forgiven by your creator?

These things I share with you, only out of an open heart which I obtained through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Sincerely,
Sonnie P. (Active 4th Watcher)

-Sonnie P., 4th Watcher
Jul 31, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Thank you Sonnie for contacting the Watchers of the 4th Watch. Your testimony shows even more the dangers of the PMCC 4th Watch cult, as it is obvious you are another victim of their brainwashing. We hope one day that your senses come back, as they did for us here. However; since you have been with them for two years now, it will be very difficult for you to do so without professional help. Please consider leaving the cult to save your mind from deterioration, and to avoid making the scam-artist Arsenio Ferriol even richer. We wish you good luck.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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Surely, it is not anyone from church that convinced me. It was the Holy Spirit, before I walked into the church. Do you understand?

You did not even bother reading my testimony carefully, especially where i mentioned "before". I understand if you're just an athiest. Why not ask Jesus to define for you "cult". Oh I forgot, you don't believe upon Jesus, I understand...

-Sonnie P., 4th Watcher
Aug 11, 2011
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Freethinker spacer We don't know what you mean by telling us about "before", but we did carefully read your email, and our response is still applicable. But other than that; we're glad that you understand. :)

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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-4th Watcher
June 28, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Thanks. Now go out and do something constructive.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Nov 30, 2011
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