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Seriously. Your lies! Do you know how big you sin is? I testify that PMCC 4th Watch is a great church. All my questions were answered. They were all answered and explained carefully by our Pastor and also came from the Bible. You people judge when you don't even know the truth. Satan has filled your hearts! LEAVE OUR CHURCH ALONE! Our church is just calm. can you imagine how stubborn you are!? But, we will not worry. For vengeance is not ours, it's God's. I am not showing off or bragging.

-4th Watcher.
Apr 9, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Thank you for your email.

We do not care how big you believe our "sin" is. Everything you believe is wrong. You testify the PMCC 4th Watch to be a great church, but we testify it to be a dangerous cult and hate organization. Your cult has had a serious negative impact on the lives of many past members due to its religious and cultic beliefs and behaviors. Those who are no longer victims were able to resist the programming that your cult tried to impose on them, but everyone else who remains in the cult are living through a deception.

All of your questions were answered, but any fool can make up answers. What matters is the truth, and the PMCC 4th Watch does not teach the truth. You even admitted that your answers came from the Bible. The Bible itself is a book full of lies and falsehoods. For this reason alone, the answers that you have taken comfort in are all wrong. The fact that you are claiming that Satan has filled our hearts shows us that you have been programmed to be a slave to superstition. You say that we judge without knowing the truth, but look at what you're doing. You know nothing of the truth, and yet you're following a con-man and talking about devils.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Apr 9, 2011
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spacer hi guys,

please remove this website.. This website is attacking a religious group and attacking a person that violates the law.

If you still pursuing this website to be published, I will report it to the FBI and forcibly remove it and send to jail whoever is responsible of creating a website. If you want to discuss against religions please discuss it in a forum like thebereans.net and not like this direct website. It could harm many people.

Please bare with me, or else you will see an FBI Agent right at the front of your house to pick you up and send to jail!.

Regards,
Mama Satan

-Lucy, Mama Satan
Mar 21, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Well thank you for the heads up. However, the website is not going down, at least not any time soon. This website has an important purpose...to expose the truth of the PMCC 4th Watch cult. It is attacking a religious group, but in a peaceful and legal way. As far as attacking a person, we are exposing the truth about the cult leaders. We make it clear that what we say is our opinion and our beliefs. We state nothing as factual unless we know that is the case. We have the right to speak out and say what we want, as long as we do not intentionally lie about anyone only to bring them down. Everything we say we truly believe and is backed up by evidence.

You may report it if you want to, but we doubt the FBI would allow themselves to be bothered by such a small website. They have bigger and more important things to do, like catching terrorists. Even if the government relayed to us that we were doing something illegal, at most what would happen is that we would be forced to take the site down or fix whatever we did wrong. We would never go to jail. Jail is too full of murders, thieves, and rapists...persons who actually belong there...like cult leader scam-artists for example. Of course, I know you're not even being serious about this, but we'll humor you.

One more thing. It is hypocritical of you to complain to us, saying that we're attacking your cult leaders after they attacked us. We are victims of your cult leaders, and if anyone needs to go to jail, it's them.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Mar 23, 2011
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spacer you are so very determined in destroying this group huh? your heart is full of hatred. if you call this group as a hate organization, what do you call yourself? you are instead promoting more hatred.

-Darwin.evolutor
Mar 16, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Thank you for your email. Yes, we are very determined to destroy your church in very peaceful (and legal) ways. Our hearts are full of love, that is why we feel bad for you and your fellow cult members who are so full of hate, which is why your group is a hate organization. We are promoting love, by doing away with hatred.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Mar 23, 2011
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spacer THE PMCC 4THWATCH HAS THE SURER WORD OF PROPHECY

WHY YOU MAKE A WEBSITE THAT ARE ALL LIE?

-Leo
Mar 4, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Thank you Leo for contacting us here at the PMCC 4th Watch Truth Project. We are not completely sure what you mean about the 4th Watch cult having the "surer word of prophecy". If you are referring to how the prophecies in the Holy Bible prove that your religion is real, you would be incorrect, as the Biblical prophecies do absolutely nothing to suggest that Christianity is true, that God is real, or that the Bible itself is accurate. Even if it did, it certainly wouldn't prove that your particular religion is "the truth", or that cult leader Arsenio Ferriol is an apostle appointed by God. The real "truth" is probably that he is just a scam artist and he and his son are scamming you right now.

Here is the reason that we made the website, straight from the site itself:

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The project contains no lies. Your cult however, is full>/span> of them, usually spewing from the mouths of your cult leaders Arsenio and Jonathon Ferriol. They lie to you so that you will give them your money and make them rich, both with money and praise. You are being victimized by a cult. Please leave and save yourself.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Mar 4, 2011
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spacer What is your true religion catholic iglesia ni cristo 7th day adventist satanist.what are you doing.Do you have a evidence that you go in heaven.Are we slandered your website.Reboot this site in one week or else we will report it on the management.

-Jazzpher Villanueva
Mar 4, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Greetings Jazzpher. Thank you for your questions and comments and welcome to the PMCC 4th Watch Truth Project.

The Watchers of the 4th Watch consists of about half Christians and half agnostics and atheists. However, the head of this organization is a hardcore atheist and the PMCC 4th Watch Truth Project was initiated and created almost entirely by this person. Because of this, this anti-4th Watch group represents an overall atheistic view. As far as the Christians in this organization go, the majority do not consider themselves to be a part of any specific denomination.

But while there is some diversity in our group, we all share a few important beliefs and goals. Among them is the belief that the PMCC 4th Watch religion is a cult, consisting of highly unusual and potentially dangerous characteristics. We are also against all cults, Biblical or non-Biblical, Christian or non-Christian, religious or non-religious. We also have the desire to prevent the hatred that churches such as the 4th Watch promotes, and to promote love instead. Religions such as the ones you mentioned like Catholicism and the 7th Day Adventists are also cultic and we have nothing to do with them.

Our purpose is simple. We made the PMCC 4th watch Truth Project to expose the truth about the PMCC 4th Watch cult, and established it to inform and warn the public about its highly unusual and potentially dangerous beliefs, practices, and members. As Watchers of the 4th Watch, this project will help us keep an eye on the 4th Watch and it will make it easier for others to do the same.

As for your other questions, no, we don't have any evidence that we are going to Heaven, and that goes for everyone. This is because we have no evidence for Heaven itself and therefore have no reason to believe it exists in the first place. Since you asked us for evidence, we would like to ask you the same. If you feel that Heaven is real, please provide us with evidence of its existence. We would also ask that you provide evidence that your cult leader is a true apostle of Jesus Christ and that the PMCC 4th Watch is the only one true ideology.

And no, you are not being slandered in our project. Everything stated is either factual, our beliefs, or simply our opinions on certain matters. However, if anyone feels that the project does slander in some way, they may contact us and let us know about it and explain our error. After researching it, if we find that we were in error, we will make any necessary corrections. You also have the opportunity to do this. However, even though you accused us of slander, you did not mention which part of the project is in question. Therefore, we cannot help you at this time.

However, even though we give you the opportunity to contact and let us know about possible errors, if you're part of the 4th Watch cult, then you have no place to accuse us of slander and to demand any changes. You are already slandering our planet and its populace with all the lies you tell to your members and the public...Lies such as how the Bible tells of a good, loving, and perfect God, that the Earth is only a few thousand years old, that evolution is not real, that God appointed one man, your cult leader, to lead God's people, and that we must give this leader money in order to ensure our place in Heaven. When you can produce evidence that you and your cult leader Arsenio Ferriol are not lying, then we can take your accusations about us slandering you more seriously.

While we appreciate your questions and comments, looking at them, we can see that you obviously did not look at a significant portion of the project or read our regulations. It is recommended that you do this before contacting us again, so that you are better informed and so that you can ask more appropriate questions and not questions that our project already clearly answers. In any case, threats such as "reporting it to management" unless we "reboot" our site will also not be taken seriously. Thank you.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Mar 4, 2011
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spacer am a proud? 4th watcher and here to say, this website pmcc4thwatchtruth (dot) com. I visited this webiste, and observed a majority of the given information doesn't make any sense.

-4thwatcher777
Mar 3, 2011
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Freethinker spacer It probably doesn't make any sense to you because you have been programmed by your cult leader to not understand reality. In order for us to help you, you will need to specify what doesn't make sense to you.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Mar 3, 2011
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spacer Thank you for your reply.? What Doesn't make sense, is that this website says that the "PMCC 4th Watch" is a Cult. The definition being :followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices. That doesn't apply to my church in any way, nor does this website give proof, but rather biased information.

-4thwatcher777
Mar 4, 2011
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Freethinker spacer The PMCC 4th Watch is a cult. I don't know where you got your definition of a cult from, but it was probably from your cult leaders who make up their own facts and lie to the public about them. In fact, we do remember seeing a definition of a cult that was given by cult leader Jonathon Ferriol on one of the 4th Watch websites, but we do not remember what it was, just that it was incorrect.

Our project clearly states what a cult is. You can learn more about the history of the word and how it has evolved over time in the cults area of the site, but here is a snippet:

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Thus, the truest definition of a cult is:

"An organization, usually religious, that is considered to be highly unusual and potentially dangerous."

The PMCC 4th Watch fits this definition of a cult.
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Our project goes into great detail about everything that makes the 4th Watch church cultic and we have even provided a summary of all of their known cultic features. Please take a look at this summary here:

http://www.pmcc4thwatchtruth.org/pages/web/features.shtml

Looking at this list of 4th Watch cultic features, you will notice the cult leader, his unusual promises about Heaven for money, the "one true church" concept, the psychological programming such as brain washing and mind control, many others. It is a cult and that cannot be denied.

Trust us, the 4th Watch is a cult. We know because not only were we members, but our team has done loads of research over the past two years about this organization. It might not be the worst cult in the world, but it is still dangerous and must be erradicated. To tell you the truth, we probably know more about your organization than you do.

We don't necessarily fault you for not knowing all of this. We didn't always know we were part of a cult when we were with them. It wasn't until we left that several of us realized what we had been involved in, though during the time we were there, we could just "feel" something was wrong. Fortunately, we resisted the psychological programming that they were trying to do to us, and we were able to leave mostly unaffected, though it still haunts some of us to this day. Like most of the members in this cult today, you have probably been too programmed to understand what you are a part of. You can read our victims area of the site to learn more on how to leave a cult and getting deprogrammed.

As for the rest of your comments, our project provides a mixture of facts, beliefs, and opinions about your cult, coming from ex-members and victims. A major goal of the site is to share our opinions and beliefs about the cult. As far as the facts go, we have tried to be as professional about our information as possible and have used quotes, snippets from articles, and information directly from your church's websites and members' own mouths to backup our statements. We are clear in that much of the information presented in our project is belief and opinion, but the facts we provide we feel are credible.

We will be happy to answer any more of your questions, but it might be best to join our Facebook forum, which you can find here:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/The-PMCC-4th-Watch-Truth-Project/194383140585556

Thank you.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Mar 4, 2011
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spacer how dare you do this to the church! this church is the true church

-Unknown Sender
Mar 2, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Lol. The psychological programming in your brain is very obvious. It really breaks our heart. Your organization is not a church, it is not true, and it is not unique as you suggest. The cult you belong to is a family business owned by cult leader Arsenio Ferriol and run by him and his son. Their business is actually a scam that relies on lies to make money. It is a scamming business among many that have sprung up in the Philippines. It is easier to do when you have a nation that is so packed with superstitious persons. Cult leaders know this and that is how they rise to power. Arsenio Ferriol is one of these scam artist cult leaders and his PMCC 4th Watch scam business is a cult…And you’re obviously one of his scammed fools.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Mar 4, 2011
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spacer so you are the ex members of that church ! what i see for that is like a vengeance, if you are a christian before, you should know how to forgive those who sin's against you, im interested if you post on your website about the muslim people! lets see that! so good luck

-Donaldo Tores Feb 26, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Yes, the project is for vengeance against the 4th Watch for the wrong that they have committed against us and others, but it is mainly for the education and a warning for the public so that they do not have to suffer what we went through with that particular cult.

I knew and was capable of forgiveness long before I was a Christian or learned about Jesus. Christianity doesn't have a patent on forgiveness. In fact, the Judeo God of the Bible is neither forgiving or merciful, so the Christian religion is not the best source to learn about forgiveness. And while we are forgiving, we are not going to forgive anyone when they are still committing "sins" against us and others, which is what the 4th Watch is continually doing. When they stop, we can consider forgiving them.

Our project is not about the Muslim people, it is about the PMCC 4th Watch cult. If the intention of our writing is to educate others about the 4th Watch, then it is not necessary to talk about Islam. However, that doesn't mean it's not useful to mention other religions such as Islam, and in fact, we do mention other religions, including Islam. The head producer of the project is a militant atheist and hates all of the Abrahamic religions, which include Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. But I wonder if you're trying to make some point about us talking about terrorists. Here are some snippets from our project which answers that question and all other questions as to why we are going after the 4th Watch:

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Inside the project, you will mainly find information on the PMCC 4th Watch, as that is the religion that this project is centered on. However, you will also find information on cults and religion in general, not just pertaining to the 4th Watch. What this means is that even if you have no interest in the 4th Watch, you can still learn a great deal concerning religion and cults.

Even if you are not interested in the 4th Watch, this project might still help you concerning religion and cults. But with so much information about cults and religion, why does this project focus on the PMCC 4th Watch? There is no doubt that there are other religions just as bad, and there are religions that are far worse. So if we want to attack a religion, why not one of those and why the 4th Watch?

We have chosen the 4th Watch because it is very personal, and not simply a humanitarian project. Members of this project include ex-members and victims, so naturally, we have a passion against the 4th Watch. And because most of us were members, we already know so much about the cult and are qualified to educate others about it.

Also, understand that a group such as ours can only do so much. We have limited resources and powers. When a party wants to start a fight with another party, it is wise to be qualified to deal with that party. In other words, you have to be powerful enough to take on the fight. But the truth is, some parties are just more appropriately dealt with by certain other parties.

For example, we would love to go after the most horrible of all religious peoples, such as the Taliban or Al Qaeda. But organizations like those are way out of our league. Again, we don't have the resources or powers to engage in such a fight. Such a fight is best left up to our militaries. It is more appropriate for the military to fight a militant enemy, because the military has a real chance of winning and it is safer for the rest of civilization. Likewise, it wouldn't be wise for the military to go after a party like the 4th Watch, as it is best left to a small non-militant group like ours. This is because the military would be wasting their resources and powers when they are so badly needed for the more dangerous enemies. A party like the 4th Watch, we can handle.

Another thing to keep in mind is, while most prominent members involved with this project are for the most part against all Abrahamic religions, cultic or not, not every member is. Although the project is mainly headed by one person, it is still a group project, and the PMCC 4th Watch is something that all of us members have in common.
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So there you go. But don't worry. Sometime in the following year, the head producer of the project will be working on an anti-religious project that will target all Judeo religions, including Islam. Religion is a disease that must be eradicated, and we are doing our part to do just that.

Thank you for your comments.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Feb 26, 2011
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spacer who is your leader.why you are doing this.why you did not mention other religions .are u doing this bcause of jealousy?why dont you talk to them. Do you think you will be rewarded for that.

-Tom
Feb 25, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Hello Tom. Thank you for your questions. Our leaders come in the form of presidents and government officials, not in the form of men who promise us miracles for money. We make it very clear in our project as to why we are doing this. We will restate what we say here:

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This project was initiated to inform and warn the public on the dangers of cults and the 4th Watch in particular. In this project, we will explain what cults are, how to identify cults, and will go into great detail about a particular cult, the PMCC 4th Watch cult, including their beliefs, their members, their practices, and anything else regarding this organization.
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As you can see, jealousy has nothing to do with it. And if you were to look into the project more closely, you will see that the head producer of this project is an atheist and hates ALL Abrahamic religions, inlcuding Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. This of course includes the PMCC 4th Watch cult. Although we do mention other religions in the project, the reason why we don't that often is because the purpose of the project is to focus on the PMCC 4th Watch religion. The Watchers of the 4th Watch is made of mostly ex-members of the cult, so it is personal and we know a great deal about it, so that is the reason for specifically targeting this particular organization. Religion, especially cults, are a real threat to our modern civilization and must be eradicated. Eventually, the head producer of this project, Atheist Jesus, will begin a new project that will target ALL religions. But for now, this will do.

And as we are ex-members, we have already talked to members of the 4th Watch a great deal before when we were with the church. However, we DID try talking to them after we left the church and started making the project, and not a single 4th Watch member was interested in talking to us. We contacted somewhere between 30-40 4th Watchers and every one of them either ignored us, couldn't answer our questions, or insulted us. And these included both regular members and leaders. We would love to have dialogues with 4th Watchers, but they have to be willing to communicate with us, and they need to understand how to correctly debate. An interview with the cult leader Arsenio Ferriol would be best. But, he is probably too much of a coward to face us.

As for our rewards, we do not get thousands of followers to praise us like the 4th Watch Apostle does, nor do we get millions of dollars like him either. But our rewards are much more meaningful. Every time we prevent a soul from joining that horrible church, and every time we stop someone from giving them money or praising that evil man, that is our reward.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Feb 25, 2011
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spacer Can you face these 4th watchers face to face with the contents of from your site? Or your just happy to post your opinions to the internet.

-Matthew Perez
Feb 24, 2011
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Freethinker spacer Thank you for your question Matthew. We would love to talk to the 4th Watchers "face to face". More than anything, We would love to come face to face with their leader and interview him. We want to expose the truth to everyone about this man and his son, and interviewing the leader we feel would be a great opportunity to help do that. Also, it might help to clear up some questions. Us here at the Truth Project tried very hard to ask 4th Watchers questions in order to be as accurate as possible, but not a single 4th Watcher knew enough about their religion, did not know how to properly defend it, or they were too scared to.

-Watchers of the 4th Watch
Feb 24, 2011
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