First of all, when you say that our article is irrelevant, we are not sure which article you are referring to. We have many articles in our report which explains the harsh reality of the 4th Watch cult, so it would help us to know which one you are addressing here. Perhaps you are talking about the article which addresses your belief in a deity? Or perhaps our article on the Bible?

In any case, while some of us are Christians, most of us are atheists, and do acknowledge that we have never experienced the reality and existence of God; but that is because he doesn't exist. For the Christians in our membership, while they do believe in God and some Biblical truth, they know that your version of God is false, and that your religion is a scam. In any case, both God and the Bible have never been supported by evidence, and science has constantly destroyed the Bible's credibility.

You say that you would gladly refute and prove us wrong, but then shy away because you know that you do not have the resources to do so. All you have is your faith, which is meaningless when it comes to refutation and proof.

As far as proving that Jesus is the biggest cult leader, we spend our time researching the real truth of Jesus, and not the fictionalized version in the fairytale which you call the Holy Bible. At this point, we do not know all we would like to about Jesus. We know that he wasn't a god like the 4th Watch believes. We know that he didn't have magical powers, and we also know that much of what the Bible states that he said was actually not true, and even invented by persons who were not even Jesus at all. Jesus very well could have been a cult leader like your cult leader Arsenio Ferriol. However, Jesus could have indeed been a very nice and wise man, whose words were manipulated and included with words which were not his own. The other possibility of course is that he was completely invented by the imaginations of the Biblical authors, and who didn't even exist at all. The truth about Jesus is a fascinating one, one which we hope to some day discover.

As for everyone else who wrote the Bible, and the characters in the Bible, many of them were also fictionalized. Again, just like Jesus, Paul could have been a cult leader, again like your cult leader Arsenio Ferriol, who used Jesus' teachings to start a religion and cult in order to scam innocent victims, like what your own 4th Watch cult does for instance.

In any case, we already know that the elements of the Bible for which Christians base their religion off of are false. Whether or not Jesus and the other Biblical characters were cult leaders, misrepresented, or complete inventions, the fact remains that the Christian religion has no evidence to back up its beliefs in God or the Bible; And unfortunately, ever since the beginning of this immoral and false religion, many branches such as your 4th Watch cult have come into existence, usually by evil and greedy scam-artists like your Apostle Arsenio Ferriol. While we don't know the whole truth about Jesus, we do know that his divinity is false, and that religions such as yours are also false; but not only is your religions false, it's immoral and dangerous, and we are doing the best we can to inform the public about this unfortunate truth.

You are correct though when you say that we are in a mess; that is evident everyday when you see the state that our world is in; But the majority of this mess was created by religion, especially cultic religions like yours, and the best way to get out of this mess is to eradicate these horrible plagues.

You say that atheism and Humanism have never contributed anything of value, hope, or morals; you couldn't be more incorrect. Atheism breaks free human beings from the chains of superstition, and Humanism teaches humanity how to love and how to live in peace. Christianity has done little to help the world. While your religion offers hope, it is a false hope; it is better to teach truth. And as for morals go, while Christianity has offered some value in terms of morality, it is over all a religion of extreme immorality.

Humanism teaches love; Christianity teaches hatred. Humanism teaches equality; Christianity teaches suppression. Humanism teaches freedom; Christianity teaches slavery. Humanism teaches peace; Christianity teaches violence. Humanism promotes progress; Christianity promotes repression. Humanism promotes forgiveness and mercy; Christianity promotes blood sacrifices. We could go on, but you get the picture.

Unfortunately though, we don't understand what you are saying about checking our country's political situation to confirm our accusations. We are uncertain about what anyone's country's politics have to do with our accusations against your Christian cult. You'll have to please clarify yourself; and unfortunately, you did not leave us your email, so we cannot answer you, nor ask you for clarification, so hopefully, you will visit the site again and see your mail here, and respond to us again.

We also thank you for your concern about our lack of love mail. It's okay. This project of ours does get support, but it is targeting a particular organization, and so we are naturally going to be hearing from that organization, the 4th Watch, and since it is of a negaitive nature, we are also naturally going to get hateful emails, not the opposite. Plus, when persons are angry, they tend to write more than those who are happy. So because all of that, it is expected to receive way more hate mail than love mail. However, interestingly enough, we actually did receive our very first love mail a few days before you contacted us again, but we were busy making updates to the project, so we had not yet posted it. Plus, we were then waiting for permission to publish it. But it's up now in case you want to see it. It's from an ex-4th Watcher who has a lot to say about your cult.

You do not need cults to escape "hopeless" addictions and "deleterious" family relationships, or to form loving relationships. Some experience positive results in their lives within cults, but more harm is done than any good. Cult members such as you cannot see all the harm that such cultic living inflicts on others, especially children. You only believe that you would be living a demented and spiteful life because that is what the cult has trained you to think. Being a cult member, you have been programmed by the PMCC 4th Watch to believe that you need them to live the great life you might think you have now, and this goes for those who escaped addictions and everything else you mentioned. This is one of the main points of cultic programming; to make you rely on them.

We do not expect anyone to be perfect, but we do expect everyone to live by morality and reason, and not evil and superstition. You say it is impossible for us to see certain persons, but in actuality, we can see persons for who they really are, like your cult leader who says he's an apostle, but is nothing more than a fraud and scam-artist. If you cannot see this, then it is you who cannot see. In fact, you'd have to be mentally and spiritually blind to actually believe that Arsenio Ferriol is what he says he is.

First of all, it matters not whether you belive in the Bible or not. The Bible is a grand work of fiction, a book of fairytales for adults. There is no evidence to support any of its fantastic stories and claims. Further more, such stories and claims have been shown to be untrue and incorrect. So whether you believe or not, you are wrong to believe in it, and no amount of faith will ever change that. If you wish to ignore what we say only because we don't believe in the Bible, then it only shows that you are part of a cult, because you are trained to shut yourself off from those who disagree with you. Ignoring problems don't solve the problems. And you don't have to feel sorry for us because we don't believe in the Bible, considering the fact that the Bible is the most immoral book in our history of evil. Because of that, I feel sorry for you...that, and because you are stuck to a cult.

Regarding evolution, science is always more trustworthy than faith in magic and gods. Evolution is a fact. Again, whether you believe this or not does not matter. No amount of faith will change that. And as far as the Big Bang goes, we know that's a fact too. All these things can be verified through observation and experimentation. But as of yet, no one's been able to verify God and his Biblical nonsense. I suggest you stop going to the cult, throw away your Bible or burn it, and focus on real science. I will read the literature you suggested if you will read literature that I will suggest for you that will help you realize the idea of creation is no match to the fact of evolution.

Regarding medicine, we are aware of your medical missions, and we are sure that some of you genuinely care about persons. But we also know that the main point of such "missions" is to recruit members to your cult, not to help them. Anyways, the main point we are making about medicine is that the 4th Watch believes that prayer is a more powerful method of healing than actual medicine. This is wrong. Your cult preaches that if you seek medicine before God, you are insulting God's power. One of our pastors from the 4th Watch actually commanded us that we were to come to always come to church, even if we were sick, because if we truly believed that God was our healer, then we wouldn't show our disbelief in him by staying home. This is not only absurd, it is unhealthy and dangerous...as all cults are.

About innocent children, we are indeed very concerned about the innocent young ones who are being raised as mindless slaves in the 4th Watch cult. We are using their images to show the public what happens to them inside the cult. We do have hatred for your cult, but it is for reasons such as this, that you are destroying the lives of children, that we have this hate. If you feel that we should take their images out because they are innocent, then you should take them out of the cult...because they're innocent.

Now about money, why do you want me to prove to you something about your cult leader and ask for evidence, when you accept everything he says, including that God sent him as the true teacher of the Christian church, without asking the same thing? Your Apostle is a fraud and he is scamming every one of you. Now, as far as how rich he is, we do not know this. We get a lot of email about our claims on his wealth, saying that he's not rich and doesn't live in a mansion. We never said that he did, but we have since clarified our views on his wealth by saying this:

	Now, we also need to make a comment on Arsenio concerning his wealth. We do not know how much money he has, only that he has a lot. This money of course comes from his victims. But we keep getting emails and comments telling us that he doesn't live in a mansion. We never said he that does. We don't know how fancy his house or car is, we just know that he is wealthy and his wealth has come from the members who have been victimized in his cult. However, one of our members from Korea went to the Philippines while a member of the cult, and she did tell us that she saw a large house and fancy cars belonging to him. Since we can't confirm this, we can't say that this is the case. But due to her assertion and from knowing what we know about him, it is reasonable to believe that he is in fact rich, living in a mansion and driving a fancy car. But whether Arsenio Ferriol is rich or not, that's not really what gets to us...being wealthy isn't a crime. But, it's mainly how he acquired that wealth. And of course, the more money he has, the more evil he is because of the way that he got it. His wealth is the result of decades of scams and fraudulent activity. Further more, he demands money from his members, while not even paying those who are employed by him. Ever since he started his career as a scam-artist thirty years ago, he has not had to make an honest living at all. Instead, he just took money from others. We really don't care if he has a mansion or not. Besides, as we have said before, it's not just the money. Arsenio Ferriol does what he does for the glory he obtains, and he enjoys the power that it brings. Just look at the titles he gives himself. "God's Sent One"? Come on...he's a cult leader.

So lastly, about the environment, one of our pastors in the 4th Watch has made it clear that we are not to care about our planet, as it is just a temporary place before we go to Heaven, adn that if we show any amount of love to the world, we are worshipping the creation and not the creator. This is wrong and dangerous...on a global scale. Everything we present in our project consists of facts, beliefs, and opinions, but never lies. Everything we say is based on evidence. Besides, your church teaches nothing but lies and false information, like gods, creation, false prophets, etc. So you have quite the nerve to tell me only to present facts when your church is a champion of deceit and inaccuracy. As for what we are doing for the environment, we are educating the public about your cult, as well as spreading the truth about man-made global warming, wich your cult also denies, and a host of other things like promoting veganism and green technology.

We believe that any Christian fundamentalist organization, a group which follows the Bible completely or at least close to it, and/or believes it to be infallible, is a cult. This is because cultic environments are made of highly unusual and dangerous elements, and that is exactly what the Bible is made of. Following the Bible is not a requirement for an organization to be a cult, but because of the cultic nature of the Bible, any fundamentalist group is a cult. That is why the 4th Watch is a cult. There can be other organizations which do not follow the Bible but which can also be cults.

"- real science?? do you know why its called theory? because up until now, there's no evidence that can prove it's true. whereas bible can be proven by history."

Yes, biology, which evolutionary theory is covered under, is real science. It's called theory because it fits the facts, has been observed, has been successfully predicted, has no evidence which disputes it, and overall has an enormous amount of evidence supporting it. This is why it's called a theory, and evolution is one of the strongest theories in science. Evolution is indisputable. You seem to be under the Creationist ignorance which causes you to think of a theory as only being an unproven or unverified idea. That is not what a theory is. A theory is an explanation of phenomena that has withstood the trials of the scientific method, an explanation that fits the facts, and which experimentation has shown to be true, and which has not been disputed by other evidence. This does not mean that all theories are guaranteed to be true, and some are stronger than others, but it does mean that theories are not just some unproven or unverified idea. In truth, nothing other than mathematical concepts can be proven, but when something has so much evidence to support it, it can be considered to be a fact. The scientific community, as well as the rational community, as well as the normal community, accepts evolution as a fact.

You know what isn't considered to be factual?; The Bible's notion of divine creation. Whereas evolution has an enormous amount of evidence and has been verified to be true; using the scientific method, creation has no evidence whatsoever, and this is why no scientific, rational, or normal person considers it to be true. Thus, creation is not a theory, just a fairytale, and that is why it is ridiculed and not taught in school. History does not prove anything; science proves history-and science has not yet so far proved any of the fantastic stories in your fictitious Bible.

Because you didn't even know what a theory is, you've lost credibility with us, and we are thinking that if you've gotten so much of your false knowledge from that video, there is no point now in wasting our time watching it. But we find it absolutely amazing that you shoot down evolution because of your misguided view that it isn't real science or that it isn't "proven", but believe in the Bible which is made of nothing but unprovable or unverifiable stories of gods, ghosts, and magic. Furthermore, if you really believe that we believe in evolution based on faith and not evidence, then you should be perfectly fine with us believing it. After all, do not forget your 4th Watch motto; "Live by faith and not by sight". You are trained to believe what you do on faith alone, so since you do not need evidence, why do we?

"- about the children, well, they cannot choose their parents right? and they are not your children. so just let them grow and I assure you, they can choose for themselves when they grow up. trust me, i had my time outside the church growing up. so why don't you just use the pictures of your children or anyone of your family. see if they will be proud of what you are doing. anyways, you just want to portray innocence of children right?"

They can't choose their parents, but parents can choose not to expose their children to cultic environments like the 4th Watch, which teaches them to hate and to be superstitious, believing in ridiculous things. The 4th Watch is equipping children to grow up as enemies of reason and morality. Children are forced to believe these things. We know; we were there, watching young children being brainwashed along with everyone else. We even are receiving emails now from kids telling us about the abuse they receive when they portray feelings that are against the church. This needs to stop. Children are born atheists after all; they should be allowed to grow up that way. Parents need only to put them on the right path, and that path should consist of righteous teachings, not the evils of Christianity, and certainly not the lies of your cult leader.

"- about medicine, what harm does it bring a person, if we give him/her some hope when "science" tells him they cannot cure her, when we have SEEN with our own eyes, how people are miraculously healed of sickness "science" can't cure. or a person with a terminal disease given 3 months to live but has outlived those 3 months even up to 3 years. i have nothing against science, i use it everyday and i believe science is a gift from God but given those circumstances i would put my faith more on God than your "real science"."

We do not believe you when you say that you have nothing against science. By placing the word in quotes and not to mention your ignorance of basic scientific terminology, we would say you do have something against it. You probably don't like it because it shows your religion to be wrong everyday.

But with that aside, we don't care so much about praying when it comes to persons in need of medical help. As for your question, there really isn't much harm at all. The problem is when you start to rely on prayer more than on the science. We'll restate what we said before: The 4th Watch believes that prayer is a more powerful method of healing than actual medicine. This is wrong. Your cult preaches that if you seek medicine before God, you are insulting God's power. One of our pastors from the 4th Watch actually commanded us that we were to always come to church, even if we were sick, because if we truly believed that God was our healer, then we wouldn't show our disbelief in him by staying home. This is not only absurd, it is unhealthy and dangerous...as all cults are.

And you want to talk fake science again? What you are witnessing when you see "miraculous" healings doesn't have to be divine interventions. You are jumping to that conclusion only because science might not have the answer for it. Doing that is not scientific, it's just being superstitious. Just because science can't explain something or provide an answer for a current problem, that in no way verifies or proves that prayer works or that God is real.

"- about the environment, i still do not believe that you are that dumb to interpret these words as against the environment. "do not love the world or anything in the world.... 1 John 2:15"

We have already told you that those interpretations come from the pastors. However, we cannot believe that you are that dumb to be fooled by a man who claims to be an apostle sent by God, and a man who considers himself to be the only true Christian teacher, worthy of interpreting the Bible correctly. Talk about science...talk about evidence...He has never shown to be anything other than a scam-artist.